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August 31, 2008

KEEPING SALVATION FREE- WITH FREE GRACE BOOKMARKS - (a Sure Fire Way to Stump Doorknockers)

KEEPING SALVATION FREE- WITH FREE GRACE BOOKMARKS - (a sure fire way to stump doorknockers)

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Hello my name is Grady,

My dear friend and Christian in a day of so many contingencies it is impossible to prove any thing beyond a shadow of a doubt. Does this mean we should doubt our salvation as many door knockers demostrate? Quite the opposite is true. It’s not a false spirit bearing witness to a false Gospel (like burning in bosom). It’s not holy spirit goose bumps, it’s not an indwelling or a manifestation….that gives you assurance….all this can be manipulated by the god of this world (satan).

Your assurance comes in knowing the mere facts of the gospel and believing them. This in turn gives you an absolute assurance that is indissoluble and true:

AND RELIGION IS A GOOD THING

I MEAN SOMEONE needs to feed the homeless right? (solve wellfare probs)

the problem is that RELIGION was never intended to save us.
Reforming our actions may get us better probation but they will not attian SALvation

THERE IS A GREEK WAR GOING ON RIGHT NOW
and a battle over what the bible says consistently and what the bible says literally

THIS BOOKMARK IS A COMMEMORATIVE INDEX OF FREE GRACE, the only one out there that I know of…

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bookmark has a “IS YOUR GOSPEL TRUE” graphic on front and 157 free grace verses on back…which makes it impossible for people to tell you to repent and be baptized to be saved….especially in light of the other hundreds of verses

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ADDITIONAL RESOURCES TO EQUIP THE SAINTS FOR MINISTRY AND TO GIVE EVERY MAN AN ANSWER

MORE STUFF AGAINST LORDSHIP SALVATION’S TAKE ON “REPENTANCE OF SELFISHNESS TO BE SAVED”

Clear Gospel Campaign’s take on “salvic repentance”>

Understanding Repentance by Clarity Ministries

A Biblical theology of Repentance Outlined

SOME OF THE BEST LINKS I’VE FOUND ON “DISPENSATIONALISM VS COVENANT CALVINISM”

“DISPENSATIONALISM-CHAFER” on Miles Stanford web blogs

ORIGINALLY WHAT KEPT ME FROM CLASSIC DISPENSATIONAL VIEWS WAS WHEN PEOPLE WOULD INTERPRET THE SERMON ON THE MOUNT AS BEING ONLY FOR THE MILLENIUM (well they were correct, but I just needed to look into it out for myself)

“iS THE SERMON ON THE MOUNT FOR TODAY?” middletownbiblechurch on dispensationalism

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Moral Relativism - Greg Koukl Video Downloads (facebook Groups)

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COMMENTS and REBUTALLS TO VIDEO ARE INTERESTING Adam Schneider at 10:47am Jul 27 This is some of the worst argumentation I have ever heard. Instead of setting up straw men arguments to tear down obviously flawed statements from inconsequential people, he should instead attempt to deal with the history of thought. He should take on specific arguments from real opponents, e.g., Foucault, Sartre, Nietzsche, etc…. Instead this man treats his audience with contempt by being patronizing and misleading toward his audience.

G Grady Little at 2:09am Jul 28 I liked how he said that “what holds every cultrue together is common values expressed through law”

Adam Schneider at 8:43am Jul 28 not all cultures hold the same values though. even if there were values that were universal, that really doesn’t prove anything. It could just as easily be argued that people have developed morals as survival instincts.

G Grady Little at 4:19am Aug 3 no culture known to man exalts absolute selfish behavior, it would be like honoring the retreating enemy with a medal of honor- all cultures in fact honor some type of selfliss behavior. even in canaballism, no one would honor he who ate most his friends up, but rather he who refrained- this universal code of behavior is what cslewis called the natural law. it is many examples of this that koukl called “common values expressed through law”

Adam Schneider at 9:41am Aug 3 Selfish behavior as you say, must first be defined as different cultures consider different acts to be selfish. As I said though, it really doesnt prove the existence of god at all. It is merely an equivocation.

G Grady Little at 12:16am Aug 4 again, let me say this…no culture known to man exalts absolute selfish behavior…but this is a unique-to-human characteristic. Wolves may by instinct act unselfishly at times, but to create a primitive society even in case of pigmy type folk, they will ultimately organize some sort of system of things and the unselfish will alway be held in higher esteem than the selfish. Never will you see a society take the most cowardly of fellow and make him chief pigmy. Honor will universally follow those who follow the natural progression of things found in a naturally based code of ethics or conscience and those who go against it will ultimately be put to shame. I believe even if it is an equivocation (since you brought God into it)…that if there is in fact evidence for a natural law (and I have already laid that basis) then there would also be evidence for a natural law giver….or God

Adam Schneider at 9:14am Aug 4 You use words like “never” and “ultimately” alot. And use them in a very presumptuous manner. They really dont have the meaning that you think they do and they have not helped you lay the basis for a natural law, you are simply assuming there is one. Just like you assume there is a god, and you assume the bible is god’s word.

G Grady Little at 10:18am Aug 4 I understand your concern with subjectivity. However I think naturalists are as guilty of this or moreso.

For example: there is an equivocation of the word ’subjective’ because since we are subjects everything we percieve is a subject….whether it’s the natural world via our five senses, or intuition. Both would be considered subjective under this reasoning!

whether the things we know are moral truth through intuition or the nature of world through our five senses there is a sense in which all these are subjective because they are in fact percieved by subjects.

In fact some say that what is percieved through intuition is more relieable than our five senses, which would put super-naturalism at a higher truth level than naturalism: if you saw a dog across the room and at the same time thought 2+2=4 which then would be more true? it would be the intuition you know, because the dog could be a mirage or an illusion.

Adam Schneider at 4:19pm Aug 4 A priori reasoning has been debated in philosophy for the last 200 years and for the most part has not resulted in anything conclusive. In fact, most philosphers have a very big problem with it. Now, just because people accept something in no way makes it true. Millions of people believe in Allah, does this make him real? I’m sure you would say no. Do you think God could make 2+2=5?

G Grady Little at 4:39am Aug 6 well, truth exists apart from the perception of it. So our preception of truth was the topic at hand. I can percieve Allah as the only true God, but my perception can be false. Now on the other hand, I can see a picture of Allah in the clouds and this could also be false. My point was that the truth that is percieved by the five senses is just as subjective as truth percieved by intuition. In fact my eyes might decieve me more often than my mind. That is the premise I was making with the whole thing. And yes God can make 2+2=5, in a hyper space, or meta physical realm, other dimension, or quantum realm. Our pysical laws would be bendable there.

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SOTERIOLOGICAL JOURNAL 4:6- The Rich Young Ruler- Sell Everything- Give to Poor And Follow Me VS Free Grace

SOTERIOLOGICAL JOURNAL 4:5- The Rich young Ruler- sell everything- give to poor and follow me VS free grace

GOD ENCRYPTED THE GOSPEL OF FAITH ALONE AT TIMES TO RESIST THE PROUD AND GIVE GRACE TO THE HUMBLE

Many Lordship Salvationists use the Rich young ruler as an example that we must repent and make Jesus our Lord and Master to be saved.

There is an equivocation of the word repent (as I have said before).

Repent can mean many things (sorrow, change mind, turn from bad action, turn from good action etc)

When spoken of in a salvation sense the word repent is never used as a “turn from sins plural to be saved”

but rather a “turn from unbelief to belief- which is a turning from sin singular”

I don’t have an issue with the case of the rich young ruler. For one repent isn’t even used in this passage but other verbs are…

sell everything,

give to poor,

follow me…

etc…

However when seen in context it is obviously a non issue of free grace.

See in Mark ten there is a young man ( a jew) who comes to Jesus and asks “what shall I do that I may inherit eternal life”?

Ultimately what is remembered from this passage is that Jesus says….”sell everything you have, give to the poor and follow me”

Well there is a lot more to the story that just that.

See I want to raise just a few observations here:

1 Jesus wanted everyone to know that salvation was impossible by the flesh (Mark 10:27)

2 Jesus wanted everyone to know that while it’s impossible for salvation to happen meritoriously through the flesh, yet still one who believes and works not may be saved like a child. (Mark 10:15)

It’s hard for the rich to get saved because they work for a living and it’s normal to believe we must work for salvation. Childishness is looked at as irresponsibility and therefore not honored to the rich. Secondly since salvation is by having the faith of a child (v15)….the rich normally would not be equiped do that…(v25.) This particular rich man needed to take the God he was believing in and repent toward the one true method of salvation (faith not fleshly works). He believed in a God of the Old Testament Law, Jesus said basically “if you believed the law of moses, you would have believed in ME, because the law testified of me.”

Note: it’s not that the rich can’t be saved, but it’s that it’s difficult for them, whereas for children it may be very simplistic.

Jesus knowing that the rich young ruler was just a legalist, he did not give him the way of grace (v17) but the way of law. In essence God resisted the proud and gave grace to the humble. He does this with parables too. Parables were not meant to reveal truth but to hide it. He encrypted the gospel at points so that only those who were humble and properly prepared for it….would hear and be saved. The others, simply did not have ears to hear. They were deaf and blind and cocky and proud. This was the case with the Rich young Ruler.


  • LORDSHIP SALVATION: HOW TO HAVE NO ASSURANCE OF SALVATION

    many Christians think they need to be better people to be saved….as a result they miss the entire message of the Gospel and salvation itself….

    It’s not a real faith in Christ. It’s ultimately a faith in man’s ability to abide in Jesus’ religion but not IN JESUS himself! You must REPENT of traditional dead works to trust in the finished work of Christ!

    “MEASURELESS HARM HAS BEEN DONE TO A SOUL WHEN IT HAS BEEN TAUGHT THAT A SELF-IMPOSED REPENTANCE MUST PRECEDE FAITH IN CHRIST. SUCH INSISTENCE IGNORES EVERY VITAL ASPECT OF SAVING GRACE.” Lewis Sperry Chafer (founder of Dallas Theological Seminary) In His book called GRACE 1922 by Kregal, Grand Rapids

    “if FAITH IS THE HAND that accepts salvation, REPENTANCE IS THE HAND that rejects salvation by any other means”-Ron Shea (Gospel Booklet)

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  • FREE GRACE: HOW TO HAVE ASSURANCE OF SALVATION

    IT’S NOT FAITH THAT GOD EXISTS, IT’S A FAITH IN HIS FAITH-FULNESS. It’s faith that is within something. The object of this faith is Christ. The subject of this faith is the Cross. The reason of faith is the resurrection. The result of faith is salvation.

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    Kent Hovind Google Video - Lies in the Textbooks 175min

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    Sending the ‘Very Best’? - Hallmark Introduces New Line of Cards for Gay Marriage

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    Sending the ‘Very Best’? - Hallmark Introduces New Line of Cards for Gay Marriage

    (christiansunite.com reports) — Hot on the heels of the California Supreme Court decision to allow same- sex “marriage,” Hallmark Cards is cravenly introducing a new line of greetings cards celebrating “gay marriage.” Playing it safe with generalized images such as two tuxedos and taglines like “one promise, two hearts,” there is no mention of the words wedding or marriage. Hallmark can easily market the cards for civil unions and domestic partnerships should the California decision go against them and be overturned in November.

    Hallmark prides itself on “quality, innovation and caring.” A family-owned business since 1910, Hallmark has grown into the most recognized greeting card chain in the nation. For over 50 years, families have gathered to watch the award winning Hallmark Channel for quality movies based on American values and pro-family principles.

    Wendy Wright, President of Concerned Women for America (CWA), said, “Hallmark is jeopardizing its brand as a family-friendly company. Customers used to be able to trust Hallmark to produce quality products that were safe for all ages. Now parents will need to steer their kids from Hallmark’s section of the greeting card aisle and away from its previously heartwarming movies for fear that they too will push homosexual messages.”

    Janice Crouse, Director and Senior Fellow of CWA’s Beverly LaHaye Institute, said, “By latching onto the latest fad generated by the homosexual special interest groups, Hallmark is negating its image as a wholesome company that promotes American values and pro-family principles in its products. American businesses have a corporate responsibility to the public that buys their products. Instead of bolstering campaigns by special interest groups like the homosexual activists, corporations like Hallmark should be protecting American culture from those forces that would destroy the family and create a public environment that is detrimental to general well- being, especially children’s well-being.”

    Concerned Women for America is the nation’s largest public policy women’s organization.

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    • “Do you not realize what this man Obama can do to our country? He already has said that “he is a citizen of the world”. A citizen of the world? IS that what we need in the White House? No, with Obama will will definitely be headed for a One World Order. This guy is the most liberal person yet, he is by far so much more liberal than The Clintons. If you think Bill and Hillary were bad, then watch out. Think with your head not with this “sweet talking guy’s” words! I am not a big fan of John McCain but I am going to vote for him because I want my vote to count. If you vote 3rd party or don’t vote at all then you will cause Obama to get elected. It will be on your shoulders! So many of the Christians voted for their pocketbooks when they voted for Bill Clinton and look what we got. This guy is so much worse.” • “I had decided that this election I was not going to vote for McCain or Obama either one. I was going to leave that part of the ballot blank. Then ABC, CBS and NBC sent their “anchors” on the trip with Obama. To me that was an obvious attempt to encourage Americans to jump on the Obama band wagon and vote this monster into office. They would never have done that even with a “liberal” conservative like John McCain. I wonder if Charlie, Katie and Brian bowed down and kissed Obama’s ring, his feet, or his behind? After observing this obvious attempt by the networks to force Obama down America’s throat, I have now decided that I will vote for McCain after all. I don’t like anyone telling me how to vote nor whom to vote for. Thanks to ABC, CBS and NBC, McCain picks up another vote!”

    • TOO MUCH CHANGE FOR ANY COUNTRY IS DETRIMENTAL- we don’t need change, we need consistency. Once a plan is consistent, either a good plan, or a bad one. At least we will know where we stand.

    • That’s why I vote republican across the board and not 3rd party or libertarian. Many don’t agree and that’s ok, but it is always their disagreeing with this that causes the worst liberal politicians in America to rule her. Some things cannot be undone. While you guys are test tubing politics, real liberals are passing irreversible legislature that is creating less freedoms for religion across the board.

    • BUSH needs to be thanked not criticized, Obama needs to go back to college and McCain needs to be spanked, ranked and elected.

    • No one is perfect, this is a non issue and I cannot fathom how Christians will vote for Obama. Atlantic Trade Union, open boarders, whatever. These were not be fixed in the last 30 years why do we expect one guy to fix it in the next three? That’s why I think Obama is creating to high of expectations for everyone including himself, to his demise and untrustworthiness.

    • We really need another Bush in office, but I guess I can vote a McCain in there too.

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    Catholics Urged Vote Mccain Not Obama….also Update on Discrimination of Prolife Doc’s

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    catholics urged vote mccain not obama….also update on discrimination of prolife doc’s

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    Should doctors, nurses and pharmacists be forced to participate in abortions? Abortion groups think so. And if they have their way, you could lose the ability to choose a pro-life doctor- update by concerned women for america below

    Supreme Knight of catholic circles addresses on dangers of voting for democrats

    (christiansunite.com reports) — Addressing the leadership and more than 1,000 members of the Knights of Columbus and their families at the organization’s 126th Annual Convention being held in Quebec, Supreme Knight Carl Anderson highlighted the organization’s accomplishments over the past year, and laid out a vision for a future in which values play a key role. The speech was also broadcast live throughout Canada and the United States on Catholic television network, and worldwide on EWTN radio and television.

    Speaking after greetings to the Knights were heard from the Pope, via the Cardinal Secretary of State, and the presidents of the United States, Mexico, and the Philippines, Anderson highlighted the organization’s remarkable charitable giving last year, which totaled more than $144 million and more than 68 million hours donated to charity by the more than 1.75 million Knights worldwide.

    Anderson also called on Catholics to “shine a bright line of separation between themselves and all those politicians who defend the abortion regime of Roe v. Wade.”

    He added: “Imagine if this year millions of Catholic voters simply say ‘no’ — no to every candidate of every political party who supports abortion.” He added, “It’s time we stop accommodating pro-abortion politicians, and it’s time we start demanding that they accommodate us. What candidate or political party can withstand the loss of millions of Catholic voters in this election or the next?”

    He concluded: “Catholic voters have the power to transform our politics. And if faithful citizens can build a new politics–a politics that is not satisfied with the status quo but one that is dedicated to building up a new culture of life. There are more than 150 million Catholics in North America, and if we stand together and demand better from our politicians, we can transform politics. And if we truly hope for a culture of life and a civilization of love, then we must first think, and then act, in new ways.”

    A complete transcript is available at www.kofc.org

    END REPORT BY ONENEWS NOW http://www.onenewsnow.com/Election2008/Default.aspx?id=210638

    update on discrimination of prolife doc’s

    CONCERNED WOMEN FOR AMERICA REPORTS:

    Mike Leavitt, Secretary of the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS), wrote an excellent blog on why HHS is considering regulations to enforce laws protecting the right of health professionals not to participate in abortions. Abortion advocates are flooding his blog with negative comments opposing the regulations. They don’t believe pro-life doctors should have the right to choose not to do abortions.

    If we don’t stand up for pro-life health providers, it could lead to them being forced to either participate in or refer for abortions, physician-assisted suicide, or other controversial practices - or simply to leave the profession altogether.

    As patients, we could lose the ability to choose pro-life health professionals. Imagine having to get pre-natal care from a doctor who just moments before killed another woman’s baby.

    Should doctors, nurses and pharmacists be forced to participate in abortions? Abortion groups think so. And if they have their way, you could lose the ability to choose a pro-life doctor. Sec. Leavitt has invited our comments. The Department needs our backing to prove that pro-life professionals should have the right to choose not to participate in abortions or other controversial actions.

    I posted a comment. Now’s your chance.

    Your blog comment doesn’t have to be long.

    Pro-abortion groups have twisted the focus on whether some types of contraception cause abortion. This is a deliberate misreading of the regulations. The regulations simply respect varying viewpoints. They allow health providers to rely on sound medical judgment. They focus on the right of health professionals to follow their conscience and their Hippocratic Oath to “do no harm.”

    As patients, we depend - with our lives - on health providers to be moral and act in what they believe to be the best interest of their patients. But if moral professionals with strong consciences are forced out of the profession, patients will pay the price.

    It will take only a few minutes, but you can make a big difference. Click here and scroll to the bottom to add your post.

    You can read Sec. Leavitt’s response to some of the comments here: http://secretarysblog.hhs.gov/my_weblog/2008/08/physician-con-1.html

    To read more about this issue go to: HHS Secretary Addresses Abortion Groups’ Lies, Seeks to Protect Pro-Life Doctors and Patients

    No “Right To Choose” for Pro-Life Doctors

    Let’s protect pro-lifers’ right to choose.

    HHS Secretary Addresses Abortion Groups’ Lies, Seeks to Protect Pro-Life Doctors and Patients

    (CONCERNED WOMEN FOR AMERICA REPORTS:)

    The Secretary of Health and Human Services (HHS) is stepping in to correct misleading reports from abortion groups and the media. Proposed regulations to protect the right of health care providers not to participate in abortion, physician-assisted suicide, or other immoral acts, have been miscast as denying women access to contraception.

    A blog entry from Sec. Mike Leavitt explains the proposed regulations. Yet blog comments from abortion enthusiasts reveal a startling lack of understanding of “contraception” and a dangerous demand that medical professionals violate their Hippocratic Oath to “do no harm.” They insist on a woman’s right to get whatever she demands from health care providers, but also insist that professionals have no right to exercise sound medical judgments and must participate in acts that can result in harm to their patients.

    You can support pro-life doctors by sending a comment to Sec. Leavitt at http://secretarysblog.hhs.gov/my_weblog/2008/08/physician-con-2.html

    For over 35 years, federal laws have stated that, in programs funded by HHS, health care providers cannot be discriminated against for refusing to participate in abortions or other immoral acts that can harm patients. Yet medical students, doctors, nurses and pharmacists report being forced out of jobs, or not hired because of their pro-life convictions.

    Substantiating the reports of pro-life doctors being pressured to do abortions, recently the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists (ACOG) released “ethics” guidelines on the “Limits on the Right of Conscience” that would require OB/GYNs to perform and refer for abortions. Not long after that, the American Board of Obstetricians and Gynecologists (ABOG) released new guidelines requiring doctors to comply with all of ACOG’s ethics guidelines. ABOG provides credentials for doctors, which are necessary for them to practice in hospitals.

    Sec. Leavitt sent letters to the organizations pointing out that this could violate federal laws that protect the right of health care professionals not to participate in acts that violate their conscience.

    The groups’ response, according to Sec. Leavitt, was “dodgy and unsatisfying.” So he asked for regulations to be drafted to enforce the existing laws and protect the legal right of patients to choose a doctor who reflects his or her beliefs.

    The proposed regulations explain the right of health care workers to follow their consciences on issues like abortion, which the professionals may define (a definition backed by medical textbooks) as “terminating a human life before or after implantation.”

    Someone within HHS leaked the proposed regulations to The New York Times, claiming that the regulations “redefined” abortion to include contraception. In fact, the regulations focus on the right of health care providers to follow their consciences and make the reasoned medical judgment that abortion is an action that “terminates a human life before or after implantation.”

    Medical textbooks define conception of an embryo as occurring before implantation of the embryo in the mother’s womb.

    Abortion advocates, however, call this limiting access to “contraception.” They define “contraception” (against conception) as including drugs or devices that operate after conception occurs and before implantation.

    If they are successful in either coercing doctors into participating in abortions or pushing pro-life professionals out of jobs there will be fewer health care workers in an already diminishing field. Patients - especially pro-life women - would be denied access to health care professionals who provide the care they need.

    Many women could not trust an abortionist for their prenatal care. They would not be assured that a doctor, who moments before in another room had killed another woman’s baby, could walk into their check-up and provide the best care for their unborn child.

    Plenty of health care workers, and billions of dollars from government and insurance companies, accommodate pro-choice women. Pro-life women, on the other hand, can have a difficult time finding health care providers who respect and live out pro-life convictions.

    Abortion advocates are causing a ruckus about a rule that simply requires health agencies to follow the law by not discriminating against people who object to participating in unethical actions such as abortion, assisted suicide, or other actions contrary to Biblical or ethical convictions. Unless we counter the distorted claims of abortion advocates about the new regulations, those regulations could be blocked. If health care professionals are denied the right to live out moral beliefs, patients will suffer the consequences.

    Action: Don’t let abortion advocates force pro-life doctors out of their jobs. Support the regulations and laws that protect the right of conscience by sending a comment to HHS. If you know a health care provider who has been discriminated against for pro-life views, your stories are especially needed.

    Read Sec. Leavitt’s blog and send a comment:

    http://secretarysblog.hhs.gov/my_weblog/2008/08/physician-con-2.html

    CONCERNED WOMEN FOR AMERICA UPDATES : END REPORT (please visit and support ministry below)

    http://www.cwfa.org/articles/15631/CWA/freedom/index.htm


    CONSERVATIVES NEED TWO SEATS TO CAPTURE THE SENATE: remember to vote republican

    OBAMA UPDATE: big labor unions donate 300 million to the cause of obama this month - lets donate more….go to NSRC.ORG and view donate link. ELECTION08 UPDATE: “The biggest issue we have going right now is that conservatives must get out and vote. If the conservatives don’t vote, Obama will walk into the Whitehouse. I know McCain isn’t the candidate of choice, but it’s all we got. Vote Conservative…. or at least as conservative as we can get!”

    • “Do you not realize what this man Obama can do to our country? He already has said that “he is a citizen of the world”. A citizen of the world? IS that what we need in the White House? No, with Obama will will definitely be headed for a One World Order. This guy is the most liberal person yet, he is by far so much more liberal than The Clintons. If you think Bill and Hillary were bad, then watch out. Think with your head not with this “sweet talking guy’s” words! I am not a big fan of John McCain but I am going to vote for him because I want my vote to count. If you vote 3rd party or don’t vote at all then you will cause Obama to get elected. It will be on your shoulders! So many of the Christians voted for their pocketbooks when they voted for Bill Clinton and look what we got. This guy is so much worse.” • “I had decided that this election I was not going to vote for McCain or Obama either one. I was going to leave that part of the ballot blank. Then ABC, CBS and NBC sent their “anchors” on the trip with Obama. To me that was an obvious attempt to encourage Americans to jump on the Obama band wagon and vote this monster into office. They would never have done that even with a “liberal” conservative like John McCain. I wonder if Charlie, Katie and Brian bowed down and kissed Obama’s ring, his feet, or his behind? After observing this obvious attempt by the networks to force Obama down America’s throat, I have now decided that I will vote for McCain after all. I don’t like anyone telling me how to vote nor whom to vote for. Thanks to ABC, CBS and NBC, McCain picks up another vote!”

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    August 21, 2008

    Save your Church -vote Yes on Prop 8- Or Prepare for your Pastor to be Arrested

    Filed under: FOR THE BOREDUser ImageBibleAnswerMan (Check it out!) @ 12:35 pm
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    PG&E- gives $250k to shut down the majority of christian churches in CA

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    Now before this action alert I want you to know that the majority of solid Christian denominations have already taken traditional marriage vows. Meaning they will not perform a homosexual marriage even if forced by government to do so. I heard pastor Miles Mcpherson of the Rock ministries (calvary Chapel) in san diego mention that he has already been threatened by officials that “he was on their list” if he should refuse homosexual marriage ceremony to anyone.

    Hmmm?

    Which means…..lock up all pastors, or shut them down….

    Is freedom of homosexuals worth the loss of freedom of americas pastors?

    PG&E doesn’t help this issue…

    (AFA.NET reports :)

    Families in northern and central California may wonder why their gas and electric rates are going up. Well, here is one reason for the increase: Pacific Gas & Electric (PG&E) has just donated $250,000 to help defeat Prop 8, which defines marriage as between a man and a woman.

    It is wrong for public utility PG&E to take a political position against Proposition 8.

    PG&E announced that it will donate $250,000 to the “No on 8″ campaign, and join with campaign reps and officials from the sponsoring homosexual group Equality California to create a business advisory council which will encourage state businesses to help defeat the ballot measure.

    Randy Thomasson, president of Campaign for Children and Families, says no public utility should be allowed to take such a position. “They provide power — gas and electricity. They should not be taking positions against ballot measures,” he emphasizes. “That’s like a quasi-government agency taking positions against ballot measures, which is illegal.”

    (whats cool is that AFA AMERICAN FAMILY ASSOCIATION donated twice as much to protectmarriage.com !!!)

    God is Good…!

    but I cannot encourage you enough to lobby your representatives and pastors to support that ministry as well….click to see if your churches and business are supporting PROP 8

    “click to see if your churches and business are supporting PROP 8″


    more info on AFA donation to topple PG &E

    AFA gives $500,000 to help the fight for marriage in California

    Years of savings go to fight the battle

    July 30, 2008

    AFA has given $500,000 to ProtectMarriage.org, the organization leading the fight for the passage of Proposition 8 in California. Proposition 8 defines marriage as being between a man and a woman.

    Where did this money come from?

    AFA works on the premise that we have an obligation to be good stewards of the gifts given to this ministry. We don’t buy anything on credit. We have no debt. We are careful to make sure your gifts are used wisely. We are very frugal with your gifts.

    Over the years we have been putting aside some money, knowing that when the need came we would have the funds to meet that need. The $500,000 we gave to ProtectMarriage.org came from those savings.

    The battle for marriage in California is very important. If California defeats Proposition 8, it will open the floodgates for same sex marriage in all the other states. The battle in California isn’t simply about California. It will affect every state, yours included. The homosexual groups have already raised millions, and are expected to spend nearly $20 million to destroy marriage as it has existed for thousands of years.

    That is why we chose to give the money to the group in California fighting the battle. They needed financial support.

    (endreport by AFA.NET…go to American Family Association and sign up for free alerts)


    CONSERVATIVES NEED TWO SEATS TO CAPTURE THE SENATE: remember to vote republican

    OBAMA UPDATE: big labor unions donate 300 million to the cause of obama this month - lets donate more….go to NSRC.ORG and view donate link. ELECTION08 UPDATE: “The biggest issue we have going right now is that conservatives must get out and vote. If the conservatives don’t vote, Obama will walk into the Whitehouse. I know McCain isn’t the candidate of choice, but it’s all we got. Vote Conservative…. or at least as conservative as we can get!”

    • “Do you not realize what this man Obama can do to our country? He already has said that “he is a citizen of the world”. A citizen of the world? IS that what we need in the White House? No, with Obama will will definitely be headed for a One World Order. This guy is the most liberal person yet, he is by far so much more liberal than The Clintons. If you think Bill and Hillary were bad, then watch out. Think with your head not with this “sweet talking guy’s” words! I am not a big fan of John McCain but I am going to vote for him because I want my vote to count. If you vote 3rd party or don’t vote at all then you will cause Obama to get elected. It will be on your shoulders! So many of the Christians voted for their pocketbooks when they voted for Bill Clinton and look what we got. This guy is so much worse.” • “I had decided that this election I was not going to vote for McCain or Obama either one. I was going to leave that part of the ballot blank. Then ABC, CBS and NBC sent their “anchors” on the trip with Obama. To me that was an obvious attempt to encourage Americans to jump on the Obama band wagon and vote this monster into office. They would never have done that even with a “liberal” conservative like John McCain. I wonder if Charlie, Katie and Brian bowed down and kissed Obama’s ring, his feet, or his behind? After observing this obvious attempt by the networks to force Obama down America’s throat, I have now decided that I will vote for McCain after all. I don’t like anyone telling me how to vote nor whom to vote for. Thanks to ABC, CBS and NBC, McCain picks up another vote!”

    McCain campaign Gear (get it while it’s hot)

    get your stickers and yard signs early- CLICK TO-VIEW-FEED & hit back arrow when done

    but can my church be involved in politics at all? can your church be involved in politics ? YES BUT SEE THE LIMITATIONS HERE

    OBAMA’S UNREAL RELIGION- CLICK TO-VIEW-FEED & hit back arrow when done

    Obama not prepared for town/style debate with McCain-inator

    “THENEXTRIGHT-keeping conservatives high tech” CLICK TO-VIEW-FEED & hit back arrow when done

    BAILOUT YOUR PASTOR AHEAD OF TIME (SAY yes to PROP -08 in ELECTION 08!- and save thousands of churches from Gov. shutdowns!)

    “ANTICHRIST UPDATE: Same-sex Marriage Will Usher in a New Era Where Religious Liberties Will Increasingly Become Restricted

    “ask your representatives, and pastors to endorse PROP 8″

    “Killing off our next generation will destroy our economy, abortion links, youth”- abort73.com

    “getting your teens exited about bio ethics” CLICK TO-VIEW-FEED & hit back arrow when done

    “NEW-dumbing down of society via homosexual lobbyists” CLICK TO-VIEW-FEED & hit back arrow when done

    repairing the foundations

    “repairing the foundations of american culture” CLICK TO-VIEW-FEED & hit back arrow when done

    therightperspective podcastblog.blogspot.com

    A TRUSTED SOURCE OF NEWS AND INFO-WORLDNETDAILY.COM

    (ACTFORAMERICA- KEEPING AMERICA FREE FROM JIHAD-actforamerica.org)

    Bio Ethics Links

    “what the heck is bio ethics and how does in affect the fact that obama rejects it entirely” CLICK TO-VIEW-FEED & hit back arrow when done

    how to make politicians better

    how to make politicians better…CLICK TO-VIEW-FEED & hit back arrow when done

    Another conservative magazine

    (the weekly standard) reports on the safety increase in America as a result of the conservative and Christian bush administration “the weekly standard conservative news journals” CLICK TO-VIEW-FEED & hit back arrow when done

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    Son of Hamas Leader Mosab Hassan Yousef Converts to Christianity

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    STR.blog reports:

    posted by melinda at STR.org

    Mosab Hassan Yousef is an extraordinary young man with an extraordinary story. He was born the son of one of the most influential leaders of the militant Hamas organization in the West Bank and grew up in a strict Islamic family.

    Now, at 30 years old, he attends an evangelical Christian church, Barabbas Road in San Diego, Calif. He renounced his Muslim faith, left his family behind in Ramallah and is seeking asylum in the United States….

    “Now, here’s the reality: after I studied Christianity — which I had a big misunderstanding about, because I studied about Christianity from Islam, which is, there is nothing true about Christianity when you study it from Islam, and that was the only source.

    When I studied the Bible carefully verse by verse, I made sure that that was the book of God, the word of God for sure, so I started to see things in a different way, which was difficult for me, to say Islam is wrong.

    Islam is my father. I grew up for (one) father — 22 years for that father — and another father came to me and told me, ‘I’m sorry, I’m your father.’ And I was like, ‘What are you talking about? Like, I have my own father, and it’s Islam!’ And the father of Christianity told me, ‘No, I’m your father. I was in jail, and this (Islam) is not your father.’”

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    August 20, 2008

    Democratic Activist Judges Kick Us When We are Down And Legislate all Doctors to Inseminate Lesbians No Holds Barred

    Filed under: FOR THE BOREDUser ImageBibleAnswerMan (Check it out!) @ 12:27 pm

    Prop 8

    Democratic activist Judges kick us when we are down and legislate all doctors to inseminate lesbians no holds barred. FYI McCain wouldn’t allow activist Judges to force Doc’s to inseminate lesbians for reproducing means, but obama would be tickled by it for some freakish reason.

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    “Concerned Women for America” have been lobbying against this for months now….thanx for your activist efforts to bring america back to her Christian Heritage….!! The law was still passed but not without a fight, and you guys are troopers. If you don’t fight, then your just a coward to give over your house and home to enemy. These Conservative Christian women are doing a great job…and I think they deserve a hand of support and prayer so visit their site and sign up for their stuff…..(concerned women for america).

    Back to our story:

    Activist judges take on tradition marriage and kick us while we are down…

    (onenewsnow.com reports) The same California Supreme Court that created a “right” to homosexual “marriage” earlier this year has now ruled that the state may force healthcare professionals to provide services that support an immoral and physically dangerous lifestyle.

    California’s highest court was unanimous in its decision on Monday that Christian doctors may not refuse to perform artificial insemination for homosexual patients. (See “California court says no religious exemption for doctors”) Attorney Brad Dacus, president of the Pacific Justice Institute (PJI), reacts to the ruling.

    “This is a clear violation of the fundamental rights of individuals to live and practice their faith,” he states bluntly. “Forcing doctors to have to choose between being a doctor and being a Christian in the State of California is an outrageous violation of the fundamental rights of every American to be able to practice their faith and not to have to leave their occupation because of it.”

    In the case in question, the Christian doctors refused to perform artificial insemination on a lesbian patient, but did refer her to another doctor who would perform the elective treatment. Dacus says that proves this suit was not about guaranteeing “healthcare” for homosexuals, but instead about punishing Christians for obeying God’s Word.

    “This is not about denying people services,” the attorney argues. “This is, instead, about the ‘thought police’ attempting to censor Christian beliefs and Christian perspectives that don’t agree with homosexuality. We’re talking…about individuals being able to force doctors or other professionals to violate their faith in order to keep their job.” And that, he adds, is a clear violation of the rights of individuals to be able to practice their expertise and, at the same time, not to have to deny their faith.

    The PJI president says the ruling is quite broad and will apply to almost every profession in the state, meaning that Christian professionals and service providers — childcare providers, for instance — will be forced to provide services to homosexuals that support their immoral lifestyle and clearly violate biblical standards.

    “For example, lawyers who are engaging in marriage and family law can now be forced to [execute] documents for homosexuals adopting children…,” Dacus offers. “And individual with a wedding service, despite their Christian faith to the contrary, can now be forced to conduct wedding services and wedding preparations for lesbian or homosexual male couples.”

    Dacus says the case is certain to be appealed. “This just goes to show how critically important it is for us in the United States to have a Supreme Court that is not against those who practice the Christian faith but, instead, understands what the Constitution is about and [do] not engage in outrageous judicial activism,” he says.

    (end report by onenewsnow.com)


    CONSERVATIVES NEED TWO SEATS TO CAPTURE THE SENATE: remember to vote republican

    OBAMA UPDATE: big labor unions donate 300 million to the cause of obama this month - lets donate more….go to NSRC.ORG and view donate link. ELECTION08 UPDATE: “The biggest issue we have going right now is that conservatives must get out and vote. If the conservatives don’t vote, Obama will walk into the Whitehouse. I know McCain isn’t the candidate of choice, but it’s all we got. Vote Conservative…. or at least as conservative as we can get!”

    • “Do you not realize what this man Obama can do to our country? He already has said that “he is a citizen of the world”. A citizen of the world? IS that what we need in the White House? No, with Obama will will definitely be headed for a One World Order. This guy is the most liberal person yet, he is by far so much more liberal than The Clintons. If you think Bill and Hillary were bad, then watch out. Think with your head not with this “sweet talking guy’s” words! I am not a big fan of John McCain but I am going to vote for him because I want my vote to count. If you vote 3rd party or don’t vote at all then you will cause Obama to get elected. It will be on your shoulders! So many of the Christians voted for their pocketbooks when they voted for Bill Clinton and look what we got. This guy is so much worse.” • “I had decided that this election I was not going to vote for McCain or Obama either one. I was going to leave that part of the ballot blank. Then ABC, CBS and NBC sent their “anchors” on the trip with Obama. To me that was an obvious attempt to encourage Americans to jump on the Obama band wagon and vote this monster into office. They would never have done that even with a “liberal” conservative like John McCain. I wonder if Charlie, Katie and Brian bowed down and kissed Obama’s ring, his feet, or his behind? After observing this obvious attempt by the networks to force Obama down America’s throat, I have now decided that I will vote for McCain after all. I don’t like anyone telling me how to vote nor whom to vote for. Thanks to ABC, CBS and NBC, McCain picks up another vote!”

    • TOO MUCH CHANGE FOR ANY COUNTRY IS DETRIMENTAL- we don’t need change, we need consistency. Once a plan is consistent, either a good plan, or a bad one. At least we will know where we stand.

    • That’s why I vote republican across the board and not 3rd party or libertarian. Many don’t agree and that’s ok, but it is always their disagreeing with this that causes the worst liberal politicians in America to rule her. Some things cannot be undone. While you guys are test tubing politics, real liberals are passing irreversible legislature that is creating less freedoms for religion across the board.

    • BUSH needs to be thanked not criticized, Obama needs to go back to college and McCain needs to be spanked, ranked and elected.

    • No one is perfect, this is a non issue and I cannot fathom how Christians will vote for Obama. Atlantic Trade Union, open boarders, whatever. These were not be fixed in the last 30 years why do we expect one guy to fix it in the next three? That’s why I think Obama is creating to high of expectations for everyone including himself, to his demise and untrustworthiness.

    • We really need another Bush in office, but I guess I can vote a McCain in there too.

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    “THENEXTRIGHT-keeping conservatives high tech” CLICK TO-VIEW-FEED & hit back arrow when done

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    “ANTICHRIST UPDATE: Same-sex Marriage Will Usher in a New Era Where Religious Liberties Will Increasingly Become Restricted

    “ask your representatives, and pastors to endorse PROP 8″

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    “getting your teens exited about bio ethics” CLICK TO-VIEW-FEED & hit back arrow when done

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    “what the heck is bio ethics and how does in affect the fact that obama rejects it entirely” CLICK TO-VIEW-FEED & hit back arrow when done

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    Another conservative magazine

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    August 18, 2008

    SOTERIOLOGICAL JOURNAL 4:5- IF I DON’T GO TO SUNDAY SCHOOL AND AIN’T SPIRIT LED WILL I GO TO HELL?

    YET ANOTHER JOURNAL FROM THE GUY YOUR PASTOR WARNED YOU ABOUT

    SOTERIOLOGICAL JOURNAL 4:5- IF I DON’T GO TO SUNDAY SCHOOL AND AIN’T SPIRIT LED WILL I GO TO HELL?

    can you imagine if a oneness pentecostal told you that you were not saved because you didn’t speak in tongues?

    can you imagine if a seventhday adventist told you that you were not saved because you went to church sunday instead of saturday?

    well it is easy to turn christianity into a money slaving enterprise, but is this what Jesus would do?

    many have made church going a necessary fruit of the spirit. Is this doctrine of law or of grace?

    of faith or of works?

    is it true or heresy? Don’t worry, church can’t even save the pastor! fur reals read up

    blessings and enjoy one of the few people even less popular amongst the legalists than myself..

    ..a free grace pillar a real grace shaker…..

    lllllllloooooouuuiiiissss sperry chafer… (written in 19th century poetic style)

    If your pastor was alive in 1922 he would have warned you about Lewis Sperry Chafer!

    & he fires up every legalist on the globe, even 100 years later!

    Chafer,L.S.Grace. part of a software